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anderson cooper starts right now. piers, thanks. good evening. it's 10:00 on the east coast. breaking news and shocking video as the death toll climbs in egypt. pressure grows on president obama. also, with his little girl's life on the line, a father confronts chris christie for the signature he believes can save her life, allowing 2-year-old vivian wilson the medical marijuana she needs. her dad joins me along with dr. sanjay gupta. later, my conversation about trayvon martin, the n word and race in america. we begin with the growing carnage in egypt and what if anything america can do to stop it. the second part of that, what to do is unclear. the cost in human lives is plain to see. moments ago, the muslim brotherhood spokesman announcing over twitter that friday will be a day of anger, calling for
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marches toward cairo's center after noon prayers. also tonight, the death toll from yesterday's clashes revised upwards significantly. the state-run tv station in egypt saying at least 580 people were killed in fighting yesterday, and 4,000 wounded. 580 killed, 4,000 people wounded. eye witnesses say the killing mostly at the hands of government forces, firing live ammunition demolished a pair of protest camps in cairo. one video surfacing today on youtube, according to "the new york times," it was taken during a military assault on a sit-in outside of a mosque. it is not easy to watch. you might want to look away. it shows a protester trying to carry a wounded man to safety and what happens next. [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> according to the "times," a woman recording the assault was also shot. the times cannot determine if she was a protester or journalist covering the scene. reaction felt across egypt. this is alexandria, where thousands of morsi supporters hit the streets. in giza, the local government headquarters came under attack. they through molotov cocktails from the road. not far from there, members of the coptic christian faith surveyed the damage to their house of worship. a third house was set ablaze today. again, nearly 600 people killed, 4,000 wounded. today, the pentagon canceled military exercises with egypt and president obama condemned the military government's recent
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actions. he did not, however, condemn the regime itself. >> we don't take sides with any particular party or political figure. i know it's tempting inside of egypt to blame the united states or the west or some other outside actor for what's gone wrong. we've been blamed by supporters of morsi, we've been blamed by the other side as if we are supporters of morsi. that kind of approach will do nothing to help egyptians achieve the future that they deserve. >> ever since the camp david peace treaty in 1978, that future has been coupled to the united states, especially the u.s. military, with egypt receiving about $1.5 billion a year in american aid. second only to what israel gets. president obama has neither cut off the money or referred to the military takeover as a coup. in a moment, we'll talk about what the u.s. options are now, if any. we have a full panel.
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arwa damon is in cairo live. mona el tahari on the phone. special "newsweek" correspondent peter binehart. he's the editor of daily beast. and former bush white house spokesman ari fleishman. arwa, can you take us through what happened today and what is to expect on the just announced, friday of anger. >> reporter: when we compare the situation to yesterday, it was significantly calmer. but that does not mean that this crisis is by any stretch of the imagination over. the streets of cairo were pretty empty throughout the entire day. of course, now there is that curfew in play, state of emergency also of course to be lasting for about a month. you were talking about the attacks on churches there. we've been hearing various reports that the number is much higher. at least 30 to have been attacked across the country.
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many people were warning prior to this violent crackdown that this would be the type of spillover, ripple effect of violence that the country could have expected to see in the aftermath. one of the many reasons why people were urging the government to continue to pursue a peaceful solution. the ministry of interior also, anderson, announcing following a number of attacks on police stations and government institutions, that it had authorized its troops to use lethal force if attacks took place. everyone is very anxious about what tomorrow is going to bring, especially with the mass demonstrations being called for by the muslim brotherhood, expected to take place after noon prayers. >> mona, you say you support neither the military or the muslim brotherhood. if you support neither, who are you left with? and is that part of the problem, that there's basically these polarized sides? >> absolutely. i support neither side, but i
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condemn the mass killing by security forces yesterday, and condemn the attacks on churches across the country. our biggest and most urgent need right now is to stop the killing and stop the blood. in one day yesterday, almost as many egyptians were killed in that one day as they were during the 18 days that took us to get rid of hosni mubarak. we do need an alternative to the military that can push between the two. i don't think that egypt needs to choose between the two. egypt is much bigger than that. >> robin, the egyptian ambassador to the u.s. says this is the most serious juncture egypt has been in the last 30 years. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. this is a real challenge for the obama administration. the military has been the corner stone of u.s. relations since the peace treaty, since the egyptians walked away with a relationship with the soviet union. all the presidents since the monarchy was ousted in 1952 have
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come from the military except for morsi. this is a moment where the united states has to review its relationship with the egyptians. many of their leaders were trained in the united states. it has tough decisions to make. what the president said today had some tough words but the action was rather symbolic. there are tough questions not about just aid but whether the united states has enough influence to really make a difference, because the military is basically sticking it to washington and has indicated it's prepared to take its own action irrespective what its allies or the international community has said in condemning what's happening. >> ari, president obama said that the u.s. doesn't take sides with any political figure or party in egypt. do you buy that? >> well, that's the right thing to say. we should not take sides. we have two bad sides to take a choice between. but we did take sides previously. remember, this is the president who said president mubarak must go. so we have weighed in to egyptian affairs previously, and
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now the consequences we are seeing. this is like the french revolution. we're going to see this shift back and forth between one pole to the other pole. in the case of the french revolution it was the monarchists against the egyptians, here in egypt, it's going to be the muslim brotherhood against the military. there's not much in the middle. the united states' role is going to have to be symbolic, because we don't have much influence in egypt. it's a difficult act for any president to walk. but, at the end of the day, as much as we don't like the military, if last thing any of us should want is for the muslim brotherhood, as americans, to return to power in egypt. >> honestly, it's amazing how people like ari, who said during the bush administration, that the agenda was supposed to be democracy. when islamist parties win, all of a sudden say the most important thing is to prevent islamist parties from winning. i don't think morsi was a good
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leader, but the important principle here is that the united states does not rule out any political party from being able to run elections. we simply support the principle of free elections, rule of law, and minority rights. and the obama administration was played by the military, which made this big show of the idea that it would overthrow morsi and bring back a return to democracy. rarely does that happen with military coups. it didn't happen here and we should have been much stronger. >> ari, i want you to respond to that. >> i agree with the principle, but it's important to know that the muslim brotherhood didn't govern in a democratic fashion. >> has the military? >> people come to power through democracy or through coup in the middle east and then become worse that's what happened in iran in the late 1970s. this is not what we want to see happen in egypt. it would not rep sent peace of
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stability. it would not be good for anybody in egypt. >> robin, where do you see this going? it's impossible to predict, but what options are there? >> there's some important turning points. first of all, the new constitution is supposed to be announced by next wednesday. then it goes to a 50-member committee for review. the committee hasn't been formed or announced in any way. then there's the road map for the transition back to democracy to have elections for a new president and parliament within six months. the real danger is the whole principle, the whole process that's been laid out even in the last month since the coup is likely to be eroded. that events on the ground will overtake any effort to get back to the democratic process. and the danger also that the military will not broker opposition or other voices when it comes to what's in the new constitution, who is allowed to run for parliament or the presidency. the exclusion of the muslim brotherhood or any other party
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whatever their political stripes, would show that the military is being once again very exclusive in power and democracy is a dead issue in egypt again. that's a danger and precedent for the whole region. >> arwa, you were there in 2011 during the heady days of the revolution that overthrew mubarak. what are you hearing from people? what is it like there, especially with this day of anger called for tomorrow, what to expect? >> reporter: there's a lot of tension, there's a lot of anger, there's a lot of frustration, and there also is a lot of anti-journalist sentiment. everybody quite angry at the press, especially the foreign media, no matter which side of this crisis they are on. but most people, they just really want to see the country moving forward. the most critical thing for so
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many here right now is the economy. people really want to begin to live a decent, normal life. >> arwa damon, stay safe. armona, you as well. thank you all. let us know what you think on twitter. up next, he's got a short temper and sharp tongue. it's not easy to confront chris christie. you'll meet a man who did for a very good reason. his 2-year-old daughter's life may depend on it. and what this cancer doctor is accused of doing is obscene, lining his pocket by pumping his patients full of chemo. "crime and punishment" when we continue. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis,
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welcome back. in his documentary, "weed," dr. sanjay gupta told the story of charlotte, 5 years old, who had epilepsy. she was having as much as 300 seizure a week. each one, potentially deadly. medical marijuana reduced it to just a handful. she moved to colorado. vivian wilson, 2 years old, who suffers from epilepsy, lives in new jersey where medical marijuana faces tighter restrictions. that could change if the governor signs the bill on his desk permitting ill children to use it. he's promised a decision by tomorrow. vivian's doctors have tried seven different kinds of drugs to treat her condition without much luck. cannabis may be the only alternative. brian wilson made his case to the governor yesterday one on one. >> we've been trying to get ahold of you. [ inaudible ]
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>> these are complicated issues. listen, i know you think it's simple. it's not simple. it's simple to you, it's not simple to me. i have read everything in front of me, i will have a decision by friday. i will do what's best for all the people in the state. i'm elected to make these decisions. i'll make them in time. >> don't let my daughter die. >> please don't let me daughter die, he said. the governor's decision could come tomorrow. that's when he said it would. i spoke with brian wilson and dr. gupta earlier tonight. brian, you said to the governor, please don't let my daughter die.
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explain to people why medical marijuana could be the difference between life and death. >> well, every day vivian suffers seizures, those are all taking a toll on her body, her mind, her heart. she has stopped breathing several times during seizure. she could also die at any moment. there was a time period in april where four children died. it's a real factor in this disorder. unless we can control the seizures that she's having, which the pharmaceuticals that she has are failing to do, unless we can control those see soours, she stands a good chance of dying. and medical marijuana with low thc strains have shown some great promise in all the children who have been taking them. we just need to get her on that to save her life. otherwise she could easily die. >> i can't imagine what this is
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like for your family to see this. kids can be prescribed medical marijuana in new jersey right now, it's the current restrictions that you take issue with, correct? >> correct. vivian has a marijuana card. but the program in new jersey was pretty much regulated out of functionality. nothing about the regulations allow the program to exist and run. the bill we have on the governor's desk right now is trying to ease some of those regulations to where there can be an operational program. we just cannot get what she needs. we can't get any cbd strains. she would not be able to smoke it if she got it, and the restrictions for doctors is just so onerous. we are talking about a medicine here. it should be treated like a medicine and you should be able to get it in a form required for the ailment you have.
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>> the idea that you're going to have a 2-year-old smoking it is ridiculous. the kind of marijuana you're talking about would be in a oil or throat lasagne, correct? >> the current oil only allows for a plant or lasagne. we're looking for a butter or oil, some type of extract. the law doesn't allow for an extract. we're trying to change that so they can get the medicine in a form they need. they can put it in a gel cap. out in colorado, you get capsules. take two in the morning, take two at night. >> in los angeles, in clinics in some of these marijuana clinics, they have it in ice cream. i suppose that would be something a 2-year-old would like. sanjay, what is the science for medical marijuana for a child? we are talking about a 2-year-old child. some people are going to say 2
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years old seems young for medical marijuana. >> i think you want to proceed with caution, certainly. there is more data looking at seizure disorders overall, what brian is describing. it's an intractable type of s seizure. and i thought it with young charlotte in our documentary, a seizure that's just very difficult to treat and charlotte was on seven different medications, as well. brian is right. there is some data that's been collected by some of the doctors in colorado, as well as some of the dispensary owners, of about 41 patients, all children, that i think 80% they said had significant improvement. all had some improvement, but 80% with significant improvement. they didn't need other medications anymore. >> sanjay, in terms of your position now, you've done a 180 on this? >> yeah. i saw firsthand obviously not just charlotte but lots of other patients who clearly have a significant problem here. this intractable epilepsy. charlotte was having 300 seizures a week.
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you heard brian describe what's happening with vivian. so they have a legitimate problem, and we know that this cannabis, this medical cannabis, which again is high cbd, low thc. high cbd is the medicinal hart of it. thc is the psycho active mart of it. these kids aren't getting high. this isn't someone smoking it either. but they got better from this when nothing else worked. >> brian, are you considering moving if he vetoes the bill? >> absolutely. we've already been looking at areas to move to in colorado. there's quite a migration going on currently right after dr. gupta's special aired on the pediatric cannabis board. there was a whole bunch of new people saying how do we get to colorado and a lot of parents with kids with these severe
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disorders who are very interested. the parents are waking up to this, and we demand that our kids can be healthy. we can make those decisions with our doctors about what's right for our children. >> brian, i'm sorry you're in the situation and our best to your family. we'll continue to follow this. thank you for being with us. sanjay, as well. >> thank you. if you missed it the first time around, you can catch "weed" this friday 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. just ahead, the michigan cancer doctor who is facing horrific allegations. dr. fareed fatah is accused of pumping his patients full of chemo they didn't need, all to line his pockets. plus, my interview with oprah winfrey and forest whittaker. the civil rights movement and their new movie, "the butler." here's her take on using the n word. >> it's impossible for me to do it, because i know the history, and i know that for so many of
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my relatives, who i don't know by name, people who i am connected to, my ancestors, that was the last word they heard as they were being strung up a tree.
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the allegations against him can only be described as horrific. the doctor is accused of billing for unnecessary and expensive medical tests and treatments, including chemo therapy, chemo therapy patients didn't need, some didn't have cancer at all. hard to imagine any doctor making up a cancer diagnosis just to turn a profit, but that's what authorities are alleging. former employees blew the whistle on the doctor. gary tuchman reports. >> reporter: dennis felt a lump on his leg in 2009. he and his wife went to see a doctor, dr. fareed fatah. >> he told us the type of tumor that it was, osteosarcoma, that it was treatable with chemo therapy. >> reporter: nancy said she would have insurance in a matter of days. your insurance kicked in. you could have paid for it with your insurance? >> yes. >> reporter: but he insisted it's better to have medicaid? >> absolutely.
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those were his exact words. >> reporter: he says nancy would not treat her husband at this medical complex in rochester, michigan until she was approved for medicaid. what she did know is she was part of an elaborate medicare/medicaid scam that lined his pockets with tens of millions. >> every time we went to the office, the first thing you would ask, have you heard from medicaid yet? no, we have not. we have to wait for that, because treatments are very expensive, and -- >> reporter: so he wouldn't do any treatment? >> he would do nothing. >> reporter: your husband had this growing tumor and he said you have to have medicaid before you start? >> yes. >> reporter: nancy went to another facility where he was treated. now investigators say nancy's story was the tip of the iceberg. according to the indictment, the fbi interviewed an oncologist who worked with dr. fatah. that doctor told the fbi that fatah would give chemo "where it
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is medically unnecessary or inappropriate dosages." the fbi said that oncologist said fatah could give chemo to all end of life patients instead of letting them die in peace. dr. fatah is accused of diagnosing people with cancer who didn't have cancer. why would he do that? simply put, investigators say, money. investigators say he charged medicare for the tune of at least $150 million since 2009, and collected $65 million of it, most of it fraudulent, money used for possessions like his suburban detroit mansion. it's not clear if he did the same with the medicaid program. the indictment alleges he told a patient that hit his head in the office he would need chemotherapy before he could be treated. milton burrs was another patient. he had a mild form of leukemia and was doing well without chemo. he switched to dr. fatah because he wanted to go to a closer
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hospital. his son says fatah started an aggressive chemo regimen, in retrospect, aggressive and bizarre says jeffrey. >> somebody from the staff would come out into the parking garage and give my dad the chemo therapy right there in his car. >> basically, fatah was treat thing like it was a mcdonald's or burger king, drive through and get your cancer treatment. >> i heard it compared to that, and it appears that way to us. >> reporter: now jeffrey burrs is left to a memorial to his father. milton burrs died four months after dr. fatah started his aggressive chemo therapy treatment. >> he died when his kidneys failed and shut down. he spent the last few hours of his life in excruciating pain, on morphine. >> reporter: dennis hageman recovered after he left dr. fatah. two years later, though, the cancer came back and he passed away.
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she can't forget the week they did nothing about his cancer agreeing to the request for medicaid to kick in. >> i want him to go to prison. i want him to think every day about what he's done to these people. >> i'm trying to cope with my father's death that happened in 2008. it's like it's happening all over again. >> gary joins us from detroit. the allegations are stunning. the indictment lists all sorts of things. what else stands out to you? >> reporter: there are so many things in that indictment. one is that the fbi says a medical assistant told them that dr. fatah, once he started chemo, would tell the patients you'll have to undergo chemo the rest of your life. he owns a radiology center, and according to the fbi, a medical assistant said that fatah would ask them to say these people had cancer even if they didn't, so they would have to go to the radiology center. the allegation here, this guy just very greedy and wants money. >> what is his lawyer saying?
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>> reporter: his lawyer is telling us, he can't talk about it, he's in jail. his lawyer claims he's innocent and will fight these charges. he is right now in jail on $9 million bond and if he wanted to bond out, he's not permitted to use any of the alleged ill-gotten gains. his attorney says he doesn't have the $9 million and for now will be staying in jail. coming up, my conversation with oprah winfrey and forest whittaker about their new movie with a backdrop to the civil rights movement and their thoughts about race in america right now. >> the truth of the matter is, emmett till became a symbol of the times as trayvon martin is a symbol for this time. there are multiple trayvon martins whose names that never make the headlines. and the custody battle over veronica, whose father violated a court order to turn the girl over to her adoptive parents. the fight is not over. she may soon get to see those
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parents. the latest on that coming up. my in depth conversation
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tonight, a "360" interview, oprah winfrey. it's been 15 years since she was on the big screen in "beloved." starting tomorrow, she's in movie theaters co-starring with whittaker in "the butler." oprah told me she wanted to do this new film because of where we are in the evolution of our nation right now. but first, a clip from the movie based on a true story. forest whittaker stars as a butler who served american presidents over three decades. the film shows how changes in society and the white house over that time affected his own family. take a look. >> what was the name of the movie, honey? >> "in the heat of the night." >> "in the heat of the night"
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with sydney portier. >> he just won the academy award. he's breaking down barriers for all of us. >> about being white? >> about acting white. sidney portier is nothing but an uncle tom. look at you, all toughed up. your hat on your head, covering your ear, saying whatever you want. you need to go. >> what? >> get the hell out of my house! >> everybody just sit down. >> i'm sorry, mr. butler. i didn't mean to make fun of your hero. >> everything you are, and everything you have is because of that butler. >> i spoke at length to forest whittaker and oprah winfrey about the film and about race in america, particularly after the trayvon martin case. here's part of that interview. you talked about this coming at an important time. certainly there has been in the wake of the trayvon martin case
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a discussion about race in this country. i saw a poll recently the majority of african-americans says this is a discussion that needs to be had. a majority of whites say too much is being made of this discussion. >> i know, i know. that's why i love the film, in light of this discussion, because it brings context to the discussion. when you look at the film, beginning with that lynching scene and ending with, you know, walking into obama's office, look at what has happened in the span of one man's lifetime, in our country. >> this movie reminds us that the circular motion of things is still going on, as with emmett till. now trayvon and oscar grant and recognizing we have to move forward. in order to achieve our potential or what we said we were going to do. >> the truth of the matter is, emmett till became a symbol for those times as trayvon martin has become a symbol for this time. there are multiple trayvon martins whose names never make
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the newspapers or the headlines. the circumstances surrounding that allowed it to be, but there were multiple emmett tills. there were multiple lynchings multiable young black boys whose names are not remembers and often not even reported. >> it's interesting to me how people from different backgrounds see this. i talked to a juror on the trayvon martin case, who clearly did not understand or did not feel linked to trayvon martin, felt connected to george zimmerman in a way but not to trayvon martin. and i wonder if she felt race was not part of this case at all. i'm just wondering -- >> people feel that it's race because they don't call it race. that's not what they call it. they don't say oh, because you know what i found too? a lot of people, if think they're not using the n word themselves, and do not have -- harbor ill will towards black
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people that it's not racist. but it's ridiculous not to look at that case and think race was not involved. >> in the film, the n word is used early on. but it's not just used by the guys on the plantation, but lbj, which in those lbj recordings you hear him use it. in the film, there's a scene where people in the kitchen are saying negro. when did he start to use that word? he always uses the n word. was that hard for you? i know you have spoken about the importance of not using that word. >> i think it depends on the context of the time which you were raised. i was raised in the '60s -- >> in mississippi. >> not only that, i'm a student of my history. i have said this many times, it's not a part of who i am to use that word. i understand why other people do.
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it's impossible for me to do it, because i know the history, and i know that for so many of my relatives, whom i don't know, who i don't know by name, people who i am connected to, my ancestors, that was the last word they heard as they were being strung up by a tree. that was the last sense of degradation that they experienced as some harm was caused to them. i just -- it's just not a part of the fabric of who i am. so out of respect to those who have come before, and the price that they paid to rid themselves of being relegated to that word, i just don't use it. >> we had a fascinating conversation. more on my interview with oprah winfrey and forest whittaker tomorrow on "360." lee daniels "the butler" opens tomorrow. just ahead, the custody battle over veronica. it may be nearing a breaking point. the adoptive parents are in oklahoma to try to bring their daughter home.
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the lawyers are talking. randi kaye has new details ahead.
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tonight, the bitter custody battle over a little girl named veronica is coming to a head. veronica turns 4 next month. we've been covering her story for years. we knew her as baby veronica, we have watched her grow to a toddler, now a preschooler. tonight, the standoff was set in motion by a supreme court ruling in june. it opened the door to returning veronica to her adoptive parents in south carolina. they raised veronica for the first two years of her life. for the past 19 months, she's been in oklahoma with her biological father who is part cherokee. he challenged the adoption under a federal law aimed at keeping indian families together. the adoptive parents are in oklahoma right now demanding to take her home with them. neither side is backing down. randi kaye joins me now. what's the latest? >> reporter: just more twists and turns to report tonight here from tulsa, oklahoma.
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we've been following the story for years. they came here, they've been desperate to get their little girl back. they hope to bring her back to south carolina and all they've found here is just more stone walling and the standoff continues. but tonight, we spoke to the attorney for the biological father. he said tonight that he is offering a face-to-face meeting with veronica and the adoptive parents. they haven't said yes, but they want to know what the circumstances are. they don't want dustin brown there, just some one on one time with veronica. i also asked the attorney, what does this mean, that he's willing to hand over custody to the couple? he said absolutely not. the attorney says his client will take this to the oklahoma courts. he is going to fight it tooth and nail to the end. this is simply about letting them see her again, get reacquainted her, say hello, spend some time with her. he said there are a lot of steps that need to be taken if, and he said if, anderson, if he's never going to be handed back over. >> but the supreme court has ruled on this. what about law enforcement?
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can they help move this along or get veronica back to the adoptive parents? >> reporter: that's what we wanted to know. we interviewed the sheriff where veronica lives. he said if the couple as any intention of come there in the middle of the night or in the cover of darkness to get veronica, he will arrest them and charge them with kidnapping. he said he's not taking sides but he's not about to arrest dustin brown, even though there is a warrant out for his arrest in south carolina related to this custody handover. i also asked him, why can't you just get veronica and return her to the adoptive parents, who according to the courts are her legal parents. why can't you go and just get veronica and bring her back? >> the sheriff's office can only enforce state statutes and orders of the court, which is followed along the same lines. so we cannot pick up a child and just give them to those people on south carolina's say so.
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they have to file a certain paper and do an adoption, file the right paper work here to get their child back. or if that is their child. >> even though south carolina's court said the adoption is final and she belongs to them? >> absolutely. >> i also asked the attorney for dustin brown to respond to the plan, and they've been saying we are not going to leave oklahoma without her. and he asked he very sarcastically, are they planning to shop for a house here, are they planning to buy a house? indicating they're in for a very long fight. >> is it clear where veronica is? >> not really. we went to dustin brown's house today. there was a truck in the driveway. we knocked on the door. there weren't any children's toys outside. nobody came to the door. i can tell you there is someone who is friendly with the adoptive parents. he actually got a tip where dustin brown was.
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he went there. turns out he's on tribal land in this house. he was stopped by tribal marshals. he sent a note to try to create a dialogue without the lawyers. he was trying to have a conversation with dustin brown about this, and he sent a message back, i have no interest in talking to you. so all we know is that veronica could be in that house, on tribal land, supposedly with her biological grand parents. that's what dustin brown has been tells us all along. >> difficult case. randi kaye, thanks. the national security agency reportedly has broken privacy rules thousands of times every year since 2008. mostly involving surveillance of americans or foreign intelligence targets inside the united states. that's according to "the washington post," citing an internal audit and other documents that edward snowden gave the newspaper earlier this summer. most incidents were unintentional, for instance, intercepting calls because of typos.
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>> the ntsb found no evidence of engine failure or a fire aboard a cargo plane before it crashed in birmingham, alabama. investigators hope to uncover clues from the crash from the flight data recorders that were recovered. a "360" follow now, a picture of determine nation. that is how victim jane richard, with her new prosthetic leg. her family says they're inspired by her recovery but admit the emotional pain of losing jane's brother is just as new as it was four months ago. that is martin to the right. back to you. >> thanks. one city's plan to attract more immigrants. st. louis, missouri has far fewer immigrants than other u.s. cities, but a program is trying to change that. tom foreman reports. >> reporter: frozen yogurt is a hot commodity among the summer
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heat of st. louis, and nobody is happier about that that be jason jan. when he came from malaysia 15 years ago, he hoped to open a business, and now he has a string of places like this, and nothing but praise for his adopted home. >> great city to raise my kids, and most importantly, it has been very immigrant friendly. >> reporter: that is a message local leaders are desperate to get out, since a study found this city lags far behind in attracting immigrants. they serve 7,000 a year. itis half as much as expected in a town this size. the institute is now a key component in the mosaic project, a plan to make this area much more inviting to immigrants. >> st. louis wants to be a welcoming community and that's what we're going to do. >> that's the county executive and mayor. >> our goal is to be one of the top ten cities of america in
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terms of increase of population in foreign born residents by 2020. that's our goal. >> reporter: so they're helping immigrants to connect with loans, opportunity, education. this is not just a feel-good measure. immigrants are more likely to open businesses, create jobs and pursue higher degrees than the general population. and in places like washington university in st. louis, the plan is working for many foreign-born students. >> this place is getting more and more closer to my home. that is a very strong feeling. >> reporter: it's still early in this plan. leaders are feeling their way through the process. but they're convinced tens of thousands of jobs could hang in the balance. as for jason jan, the jobs he's created may be permanent. he's applied to become a u.s. citizen. tom foreman, cnn, st. louis. >> we'll be right back. ng trouble
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